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No to proposed LUAS Line F Option 1 Options
DaveInBallyer
Posted: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:40:26 AM
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Transport21 is coming to Ballyer!!  Everybody run like hell!

The new proposed line F through Ballyfermot should be rejected.  First of all it's a tram people!  What a load of shite.  We need a Metro! - A proper underground system.  If they can do it in other countries they can do it here for us now, a representative from RPA told me that there is money there.  Believe that a Metro can be done.  But of course all the people here jump at the first thing that's offered to them.  Ballyfermot doesn't have a lot to offer as far pretty places go but we do have at least a lovely tree lined thoroughfare that is the Kylemore road.  Well here's news people... say Bye Bye to your lovely 50 year old trees and say Hello to wires and masts because that's what you're getting if Line F Option 1 goes through.  And for what? So you can get jammed onto a tram filled with comfortably seated people from Lucan?  (No offence to the boys and girls in Lucan )
But really what's in it for us in Ballyer?  Some eegit from RPA told me on the open day in the Civic Centre that "there will be plenty of room".  Me arse will there be, just go over to Mc Donalds on the Naas road and try and get on that at peak times and get a taste of what's coming.  And will the traffic on the Kylemore road get any better or worse with this thing taking over the road?  What about people not close to the line, how will life be for them when the competing Dublin Bus starts to remove services that go deeper into the community?  They will remove the buses because that's what happened on the other 2 lines already.

By the way the parking outside the shops up at the Gala will be gone too so where will you park then?  How will it affect those businesses?

People will have to get on to www.rpa.ie and put a stop to this before they make a balls of the place.

Say No to the LUAS through Ballyfermot and demand a proper Metro Service

Here's some links...

http://www.transport21.ie/Projects/Metro_-_Luas/Luas_Line_F_-_Lucan_to_City_Centre.html
http://www.rpa.ie/luas/about_luas/line_f
http://www.rpa.ie/upload/documents/September%202007%20-%20Luas%20Line%20F%20Press%20Release.pdf
http://www.rpa.ie/upload/documents/Luas%20Line%20F%20Route%20Options%20Detailed%20Drawing.pdf

DaveInBallyer
Posted: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:44:59 PM
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I found these lovely conflicting figures in two seperate RPA publications...

 

Quote from the www.RPA.ie website:

Metro Will Have the Capacity to Grow to Meet the Long Term Transport Requirements For Dublin


When it opens,
Metro will carry around 80,000 passengers per day. This is forecast to grow significantly over time. This is beyond the capacity of an on-street rail system, but will easily be accommodated on Metro, which can operate with longer trains and at a higher frequency.

 

 

RPA Quote from the door to door mailing Line F proposal: “Dublin’s first two LUAS lines have proved to be a tremendous success.  More than 22 million passengers were served in 2005 growing to 26 million in 2006 and customer feedback has been very positive.” 

Publishing PR figures such as this laughs in the face of the public.  It’s a clear unintentional statement that the system planned and provided was inadequate and does not serve its intention. 

 

Look at the figures in the two statements:

Metro will carry 80,000 per day (multiplied by 200 work days only in a  year (no event days) = 16 million) This is beyond the capacity of an on-street rail system
26 million (divided by 2 LUAS lines = 13 million further divided by 200 working days = 65,000 per day)

So in one publication it is stated that 80,000 passengers per day is way beyond the capacity of an on-street rail system but in another publication it is hailed 65,000 passengers a day carried by an on-street system as a great tremendous success.

 

 

So if the system is already at it's max why do they continue to use it?

BossHogg
Posted: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:50:13 PM

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Hehe interesting numbers but won't they argue that 65,000 passengers is not 80,000 passengers which is what they claim is the bad number?  It's about 20% less which might be OK for the LUAS.  But in your favour I agree that it certainly won't leave much head room for growth.
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